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| Written by Bret Fausett | |
| Thursday, 24 April 2008 | |
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Over on the Nanog mailing list , IETF regular Randy Bush, known as much for his extreme language and hot temper as his technical acumen and support for the Internet in the developing world, asks voting members of Nominet to help keep "the greedy domainer slime" off the Nominet Board of Directors. "Greedy domainer slime" is obviously supposed to tell you something important about motives, but it doesn't. The back story is much more complicated. As it turns out, Nominet, the registry that runs .UK makes a lot of money. Underscore "a lot of money." Much more money than it needs to run the registry. And it's sitting on large piles of cash. Three domainers are apparently running for the Board on a pledge to lower the .UK registration fees and redistribute Nominet's excess funds back to the registrants who paid those sums in the first place. The sitting Nominet Board of Directors is quite partial to its pile of cash and wishes to keep it. It now pledges to redistribute some of those funds "for educational or research initiatives." The domainer community apparently has the temerity to think the registrants in .UK should get some of those excess funds back as a rebate.So yes, this might be about greed, but if it is about greed, then the greed runs on both sides. The sitting Nominet Board believes it should be able to charge, or tax, your domain names for amounts it knows are in excess of its costs, so that Nominet, in its infinite wisdom, can bestow those funds on the UK Internet community. The domainers believe that inidividual registrants should decide what they want to do with the excess funds. If you're a voting member of Nominet, you can decide which side of that debate you're on.
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  written by Lesley Cowley, April 25, 2008  written by jeff schneider, April 29, 2008
These greedy slimy developers, they have quite the nerve developing all these sites, Its becoming an epidemic !
 written by Michele, May 20, 2008
I know this is an old post, but I'm really surprised by your post. I covered some of the topics that were causing issues here:
http://www.isquattedyour.eu/20...ld-world/ As Lesley points out, there's a lot more to it than some people would like others to believe Regards Michele  written by IP Address, December 20, 2008
Awesome post bret.I completely agree with you.
Our most recent legal advice on our constitution and a recent letter to all members from the Board are published at: http://www.nominet.org.uk/news/latest/?contentId=5010 I have seen this link.. Great link  thanks for sharing.. regards, Stanford..  written by Tonneau Covers, December 22, 2008
You are exactly right stanford. I completely agree that Nominet Board is unable to distribute Nominet's surpluses in any way, neither can we change prices without a 75% member vote in favour...
regards, Tonneau Covers  written by magic tricks, December 22, 2008
I guess this is an old review but i found it really important about greedy slime developers.
Thank you  written by caraudio, December 23, 2008
Secondly, the Nominet Board is unable to distribute Nominet's surpluses in any way, neither can we change prices without a 75% member vote in favour. These are two of the many features of our unique constitution.
I agree with this point.. thanks. regards, caraudio...  written by redding used vehicles, December 26, 2008
the Nominet Board is unable to distribute Nominet's surpluses in any way, neither can we change prices without a 75% member vote in favour. These are two of the many features of our unique constitution...
this is really a great point.. thanks for sharing. regards, grahm.  written by Video Security, December 29, 2008
Looks like they've been updating their site.
Here's an updated URL http://www.nanog.org/mailinglist/  written by Biggest Loser Fan, December 29, 2008
Secondly, the Nominet Board is unable to distribute Nominet's surpluses in any way, neither can we change prices without a 75% member vote in favour. These are two of the many features of our unique constitution.
regards, Bekcm  written by Free poker money, January 02, 2009
can we change prices without a 75% member vote in favour. These are two of the many features of our unique constitution.
thanks for great article. regards, david jones  written by online shopping, January 04, 2009
Nominet Board has come up with beautiful strategies rather than implementation.I guess it would be more helpful if they are implemented.
Thank you.  written by zara clothing, January 05, 2009
The domainer community apparently has the temerity to think the registrants in .UK should get some of those excess funds back as a rebate.
 written by Audi, January 06, 2009
Secondly, the Nominet Board is unable to distribute Nominet's surpluses in any way, neither can we change prices without a 75% member vote in favour. These are two of the many features of our unique constitution.
Audi  written by Car classifieds, January 06, 2009
Firstly, the proposal to create a charitable foundation had considerable support from our local internet community.
 written by kitchen, January 11, 2009
Nice article. This is a great list for beginners and experts!
 written by Bovik Laan Penge, January 13, 2009
The Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) is a large open international community of network designers, operators, vendors, and researchers concerned with the evolution of the Internet architecture and the smooth operation of the Internet. It is open to any interested individual. The IETF Mission Statement is documented in RFC 3935.
 written by Online Longboard Skateboard Shop Australia, January 15, 2009
Randy Bush has posted to the Nanog mailing list asking voting members of Nominet to help keep "the greedy domainer slime" off the Nominet Board of Directors reports Bret Fausett on his NameBrief blog.
 written by party planning, January 15, 2009
Randy Bush has posted to the Nanog mailing list asking voting members
of Nominet to help keep the greedy domainer slime off the Nominet Board of Directors reports Bret Fausett on his NameBrief  written by ACAI BERRY, January 16, 2009
Domainers are apparently running for the Board on a pledge to lower the .UK registration fees and redistribute Nominet's excess funds back to the registrants who paid those sums in the first place.
 written by Call of Duty 4 servers, January 17, 2009
Domaining is the business of buying, selling, developing and monetizing Internet domain names not for primary use as a website, but with the goal of profit generation with the intent of resale, like real estate. The noun form is domainer. A domainer is a person who engages in domaining.
 written by mobile phone contracts, January 19, 2009
It is open to any interested individual. The IETF Mission Statement is documented in RFC 3935.
 written by Young writers, January 19, 2009
I think we can we change prices without a 75% member vote in favour. These are two of the many features of our unique constitution.
thanks for great article. regards, david jones  written by diesel clothing, January 21, 2009
So, i am the one overpaying? I should vote and get some of my money back.
 written by Designer Handbags, January 22, 2009
I feel that even though companies are making a lot of money, it doesn't give others the right to take from the companies. This reminds me of the coffee lawsuit where a clumsy Mc Donald’s customer spilled her cup of coffee on herself. People are naturally greedy and selfish.
 written by Los Angeles Lawyer, January 24, 2009
The Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) develops and promotes Internet standards, cooperating closely with the W3C and ISO/IEC standard bodies and dealing in particular with standards of the TCP/IP and Internet protocol suite.
 written by sweet love quotes, January 24, 2009 Thanks for this post, my friend will be so exciting to check this. I really appreciate your work over here  written by Charlotte SEO, January 24, 2009
Nominet, the governing body of the .uk domain space, has not been a happy place since the contentious Board election earlier this year. Events have really come to a head in the last week.
 written by Kort Kredd, January 30, 2009
Nominet Board has come up with beautiful strategies rather than implementation.I guess it would be more helpful if they are implemented.
 written by Forsikring, February 03, 2009
There is also provision for Registered Clubs, which are a very specific
animal, and are licenced under legislation provisions in each State. They might also be companies, but they are registered as Registered Clubs, and can get alcohol and probably gambling licences and such. written by KVM Switches, February 05, 2009
Registered Charities are also a special beast, and registering as a
Charity is *hard*, there are all sorts of specific provisions to prevent Joe Blow registering as a Charity fraudulantly, not least the provisions satisfying the ATO regarding tax deductability for donations etc. For these reasons, Charities are also easily found on the public record.  written by Thesis, February 06, 2009
Very nice post Bret Fausett. I have been reading your post last couple of weeks and enjoy every bit.
 written by buy assignment, February 09, 2009
It's tax time again. If you are like most domainers, you are a little hesitant about filing your tax return. This is not just because you dread paying Uncle Sam like most taxpayers. It may be because you are unsure of whether you are reporting your domain purchases and sales correctly.
 written by Used car, February 12, 2009
Fantastic stuff..Looking forward to more of this kind in the days ahead.
http://uk.car2be.com/  written by Club Rock, February 15, 2009
there is good and bad in this and there is greed on both sides. As Bret notes, the sitting Nominet board wants to in effect tax registrants for amounts Nominet knows to be in excess of what it costs to run the registry and redistribute to help advance the internet, while domainers believe individual registrants should decide what to do with the excess funds.
 written by Car Games, February 26, 2009
Nominet Board is unable to distribute Nominet's surpluses in any way, neither can we change prices without a 75% member vote in favour. These are two of the many features of our unique constitution.
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There are also provision for Registered Clubs, which are a very specific
animal, & are licenced under legislation provisions in each State.  written by Financial Aid for High School, February 27, 2009
there are all sorts of specific provisions to prevent
Joe Blow registering as a Charity fraudulantly, not least the provisions satisfying the ATO regarding tax deductability for donations etc.  written by meeting rooms, February 27, 2009
Awesome!!Like any other business venture domaining is the business of buying, selling, developing and monetizing Internet domain names not for primary use as a website, but with the goal of profit generation with the intent of resale, like real estate. Thanks
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 written by Thesis, March 05, 2009
it's sitting on large piles of cash. Three domainers are apparently running for the Board on a pledge to lower the .UK registration fees and redistribute Nominet's excess funds back to the registrants who paid those sums in the first place.
 written by bwin, March 13, 2009
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Greedy domainer slime" is obviously supposed to tell you something important about motives, but it doesn't. The back story is much more complicated.
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Greedy domainer slime" is obviously supposed to tell you something important about motives, but it doesn't. The back story is much more complicated.
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Well at least domain tasting will soon be ending. I think end of April 2009 But you are right, a fair and open system, and not these purely profit mongers would be great. Safari  written by Microcheap ForbrugsLaan, April 01, 2009
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I agree that.Three domainers are apparently running for the Board on a pledge to lower the .UK registration fees.Thanks for sharing.
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It would be really nice, to have a new standard for international domain names. But I guess thoose would harvested very fast anyway.
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possibly a bit later here.
Well at least domain tasting will soon be ending. I think end of April 2009 But you are right, a fair and open system, and not these purely profit mongers would be great.  written by Full Tilt Bonus, April 29, 2009
Any update on the results? What happenedwith the extra cash on hand?
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Ah! finally a relief for the fans,that domain tasting is ending finally,i just read the article
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The Nominet Board is unable to distribute Nominet's surpluses in any way, neither can we change prices without a 75% member vote in favour. These are two of the many features of our unique constitution.
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The Nominet Board is unable to distribute Nominet's surpluses in any way, neither can we change prices without a 75% member vote in favour. These are two of the many features of our unique constitution
written by new era hats, May 23, 2009
Ah! finally a relief for the fans,that domain tasting is ending finally,i just read the article
written by fitted caps, May 23, 2009
Any update on the results? What happenedwith the extra cash on hand?
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 written by Affordable SEO Services, June 05, 2009
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The Nominet Board is unable to distribute Nominet's surpluses in any way, neither can we change prices without a 75% member vote in favour. These are two of the many features of our unique constitution.
I agree with this point..  written by Essay help, June 05, 2009
Awesome post bret.I completely agree with you.
Our most recent legal advice on our constitution and a recent letter to all members from the Board are published at: written by Free Arabic Music, June 07, 2009
Well nice story to read on .These are two of the many features of our unique constitution.
written by Cod Liver Oil, June 07, 2009
But you are right, a fair and open system, and not these purely profit mongers would be great.
 written by helsekost produkter, June 10, 2009
Thansk for the article Bret.
Always a pleasure reading it and Greedy domain slime is deffenently something that needs more attention.  written by free games, June 16, 2009
I really love to have this comments.I've watched entire buses full of money pass me on the street without hopping on, so it's entirely possible that this guy has now retired to some other Carribean island and is laughing at that fool lawyer in Los Angeles.
written by club penguin, June 17, 2009
I know this is an old post, but I'm really surprised by your post. I covered some of the topics that were causing issues here: http://www.isquattedyour.eu/20...ld-world/
As Lesley points out, there's a lot more to it than some people would like others to believe.  written by steering wheel control, June 18, 2009
The author really understand how to make money on domain names. It simply amazing and there is a lot to learn!
Thansk for the share. Regards,  written by credit card machines retail business, June 19, 2009
I've watched entire buses full of money pass me on the street without hopping on, so it's entirely possible that this guy has now retired to some other Carribean island and is laughing at that fool lawyer in Los Angeles.
 written by tiffany jewelry, June 22, 2009
it's entirely possible that this guy has now retired to some other Carribean island and is laughing at that fool lawyer in Los Angeles.
 written by mitchell and ness, June 22, 2009
I love to see more people invest their passion to sports, reading and any other healthy activity.
 written by Hadoop Open Source, June 23, 2009
The domainers believe that inidividual registrants should decide what they want to do with the excess funds.
Regards,  written by Michael Jackson Dead, June 26, 2009
What is the Internet equivalent of tea? Whatever it is, we should dump boxes of it in the online ocean of cyberspace ala the Boston Tea Party. No new taxes!
 written by Female seeds, June 30, 2009
Seems to be a nice post. Lot of effort put in to build this blog. And unanimously we all have to accept that this is really a great point... Thanks for sharing.
 written by work accident claims, July 02, 2009
This is a quality comment.As many rural internet projects have failed and mobile phone networks continue to flourish, many donors have abandoned their efforts.
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Firstly, the proposal to create a charitable foundation had considerable support from our local internet community.
Secondly, the Nominet Board is unable to distribute Nominet's surpluses in any way, neither can we change prices without a 75% member vote in favour. These are two of the many features of our unique constitution.
Our most recent legal advice on our constitution and a recent letter to all members from the Board are published at:
http://www.nominet.org.uk/news/latest/?contentId=5010
Regards,
Lesley